Tuesday, November 1, 2011

If you are sick of hearing about Peter Atkins, don't go visit this blog.

If you are tired of hearing, "Peter this, and Peter that, Peter, Peter, Peter!!!"  Then I have a blog that I suggest NOT going to.  She too is part of the Peter Atkins following.  She is a great writer and I have been encouraging her to blog more often.  But if you are crazy like us and cannot get enough of Peter then go over to read Amy's latest posts about the clinic.  She rode in the clinic that I have been posting about and has some great posts about it.  Head on over to Moose on the Loose, a great blog about Amy and her Pinto Moose and their eventing adventures.  It is also one of those blogs that blogger will not allow me to comment on but I really really want to.

In other news Sara Ivie came out yesterday.  She came a little late.  She showed up about 4:20 and chatted and she had me ride in my saddle first.  She evaluated my saddle and said I did a very good job with what I had to work with.  She said the shim pad with him is pretty much a must at least for the time being.  Then she had me ride in some of her saddles.  It was very interesting to me to feel a distinct difference in each one.  The difference in the way it felt for me but also the difference in Steady.  There was distinct tension in him when the saddle was not fitting well.  Resistence to rounding his back.  Then when they fit him well he was relaxed and even stretching some which is not something I get often out of him.  The 'conquest' was the narrowest tree she had which was narrow and still was not narrow enough.  WOW that was eye opening.  She said he needs and extra narrow!  As far as fit for me the twist was not good for me in this tree.  It brought my knees out away from the saddle but I did like the fact that I was not put in the backseat like I am in my saddle.  That made it easier to post correctly and get out of the saddle at the base of a jump.  She suggested that part of the reason I feel I am throwing myself forward at the base of the jump is because I am in the back seat so much that I have to kind of fling myself up to keep up with him.  Same kind of concept in my posting.  I always struggle to get that just brushing the saddle post and too often feel I am hitting the saddle then coming back up.  But I did not have that problem in any of the County's it was easy to have that brushing the saddle post I am always striving for.  Out of all of them of course I like the highest end 'sensation' but I also really liked the middle one which is the 'inspiration'.  As far as fit for Steady well she said I would need to have a custom saddle made for him to get an optimal fit.  Extra narrow tree, extended tree points, shoulder gussets and extended panel.  Of course right?!  I do agree with her and it made me feel better that I was not just crazy thinkign that he is impossible to fit because she had trouble and didn't have a saddle in her truck that would fit him even halfway decent.  But to fork over $4500.00  for a custom saddle is just not an option right now.  Some day?  Probably.  Now?  No way.  It is hard and a bit discouraging knowing the truth about my saddle but at the same time I am very glad I know.  My saddle fits OK.  The biggest problem with it is that there is a bit of a bridge in the middle of the panel.  Making pressure points in the front and under the cantle.  Then add to that, that it kind of puts me in the back seat, plus Steady already struggling with his lumbar going out and causing him issues adds up to definitely not optimal fit.  Pretty much what I found out was that he has a high wither, uh duh, hollow behind, lacking topline, oh wait I already knew all of those things, but it was good to get a professional confirmation of all the things I had read and studied and worried and stressed over with Mr. Steady .  I did find out that for as big as he is, he actually has a short back.  So the smallest seat size I can get away with the better for him.  That was great information to find out that I had never considered.  All in all she spent 3 hours!!! at my house trying saddle after saddle after saddle.  I was very impressed with her patience and determination to find something that will be best for not just my horse but me too.

So now my wheels are turning about a new saddle and it is going on the wish list.  My biggest concern about my saddle that I learned yesterday is that jumping is a problem.  I didn't realize that some of our jumping issues were so much connected to my saddle.  Riding in other saddles I could feel and see the difference.  He is holding his breath over jumps in preparation for landing because of the pressure on his lumbar region.  He is not jumping round and upon landing his back end is "left in the next county" as Sara put it.  Then he kind of runs off inverted and bracing.  Then in two of the other saddles we did not get that same reaction over the jump or after.  That is the hardest thing because now I know that jumping is causing him pain and it is hard to ask him to improve on something that he is doing because he is trying to avoid pain.  Grrrr...  So we will be doing flat for a while and slowly going back into jumping small stuff just to get a baseline of when, why and how the pain is being caused.  I know he was probably sore to start because we had jumped pretty hard two days in a row and I was planning to give him at least a week before jumping him again but I didn't realize she would have me jumping to evaluate.  So I am going to give him at least a couple weeks of just flat, then start from there.  All in all I am very glad I had her come out and would happily recommend her as a saddle fitter.

Soon to come are more clinic videos/posts, we still have ditches, banks and water to cover.  So stay tuned :)

12 comments:

  1. I'm leasing a horse who has a short and wide back, plus he's gaited so he needs his shoulder free. So far he's taught me a _ton_ about saddle fitting, and the only thing he likes that I can afford is a bareback pad! I wish you luck finding a saddle for Steady, I have a friend who had a saddle made for her 17hh TB and she _loves_ it. But yeah, it was expensive.

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  2. You are too sweet -thanks for the nod.

    I can commiserate -I'm in saddle fit hell as well. Nothing fits my ample buttocks and Moosey's short back :/

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  3. Wow lots of good info ... despite Steady being the difficult child in saddle fit. I would pretty much give an ovary for a County saddle. They are heavenly. Interesting about your saddle keeping you too much in the back seat. I think my saddle does this too and maybe that is why I feel the need to stay a little too far forward most of the time? I am pretty good at knowing what dressage saddle fits me well but I have always thought a jumping saddle was a jumping saddle. I may need to re-evaluate my current one if I intend to jump anything bigger than 2 foot. lol

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  4. Never tired of hearing the Peter reports and I visited your friend's blog too - great reporting over there.
    Saddle fit can me a PITA. I would not buy a custom saddle for a horse that is still developing his topline, he will outgrow it. There are lots of therapeutic pads that can help with saddle fit and angle, hopefully you can find some help there. I love County saddles and their fitters are well trained, I will be jealous when you get one!

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  5. "can BE a PITA" why can't we correct mistakes on comments.....sheeeesh

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  6. Sounds like the Sara visit was well worth it! Lots of great info...and it is amazing the difference you feel and the difference it makes in your horse with each style of saddle you try. I Never would have guessed that.

    :) About selling your hubby's car...sadly, my sale fell thru yesterday so still waiting to order. But I am determined to get that County ordered soon!

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  7. Hooray for an actual saddle fitter! IT's always nice (if expensive) to at least get confirmation that what you were feeling was correct.

    As for the jumping, the right saddle makes an incredible difference. At least your saddle is not-that-bad, right? You can make do for now, since you have to.

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  8. Hey, I would recommend trying an Ecogold pad. I have been really impressed with the performance of mine and it makes a BIG difference with pressure points. I know they are not cheap but they are a lot cheaper than a $4500 saddle! When I don't use it -- pressure. When I do -- no pressure. I have just the regular ones, but I'd love the half pad as well, you might want to try the latter.

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  9. E79 I will definitely be looking into that. What is it made out of, well I can probably look that up. Would I still be able to use it with my shim half pad because I have to use that also. I would think then it would be better to have the regular pad rather than two half pads. Hey I could always buy yours off of you and fund your half pad ;).

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  10. They have all kinds of special techy foams that have magical powers. They custom made mine for me and Solo because they are just that cool up there in Canada. You could still use your shim pad with the regular Ecogold pads, which still have magic foam in them.

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  11. I have a Lami-cell memory foam pad can you tell the difference between that and what they have? I will probably sell the Lami-cell and put that toward my ecogold fund.

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  12. Just found out your problem with the commenting (by visiting the blog you linked). It isn't you, it's her blog. Embedded comments do not work. It has to be pop up or full page. I don't know when they're going to fix this, but they sure need to. If there is any way to tell her to change it you will be able to comment again.

    Well I guess you now have your explanation for why he gallops out strong after the fences. Poor boy. I think you're doing the right thing taking a break from jumping. I hope you can find a solution to the saddle issues.

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